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Stories of disconnection in Scientology

                                        Chris Eisenman

I am from Key Biscayne Florida; but went to Delphi School in Oregon, I didn’t graduate from Delphi, I left at age 16 to join the Sea Org. My Parents and brothers (1 older and my twin) have disconnected, along with their wives, and by default the children.

I am lucky to have my nuclear family circle intact. I won’t say I am a victim of Scientology, because if I was a  Scientology “victim” I would still be in it! 🙂 Hence a “target” seems appropriate.

Here’s how I look at it, Disconnection only applies to Scientologists, not anyone else. None of us are under any obligation to go along with it. That said, anything you fight against can make it stronger.

So how do you end something you don’t like? You come up with something else that makes the previous system obsolete. To me that system is LOVE, the most powerful force in the cosmos IMHO. So how do we communicate our love in a way that has impact? What if we all communicated to our loved one all at the same time? Sent flowers, card, stripograms at FLAG, lol. Any ideas?

Ya see how Scientology lies?  They say disconnection is voluntary and a personal decision of the person doing the disconnecting.  Now look at the bottom of your declare order.  It says “your ONLY terminal is the International Justice Chief via your Continental Justice Chief”. 

“Hate the Sin, Love the Sinner”    Mahatma Gandhi

Good advice I think, Disconnection sucks (or blows, for that matter) BUT it is done by people who are afraid. People in fear need love more than anything. We all have our path to walk.

We can only help those who wish to be helped. Leading by example is one of the most effective solutions I can offer as it doesn’t create martyrs or resistance to fight against. To do well after leaving Scn is a very effect to supression.

I started a group on Facebook called:

“Scientology Disconnection Targets: How Many Are We?” 

I would like to say that this group has nothing to do with what each of us believe, simply that we are all bonded through broken bonds.

I prefer to be inclusive while demonstrating love and compassion. We all have value, we all have common bonds in that we wish to be heard, seen and appreciated for who we are. Diversity is our strength, kindness our original nature, love our birthright. Give and you will receive back in kind.

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                            Lars Roest

My brother has now been in the cult for 37 years, he currently at Flag.
I was in for 2.5 years in the early 80’s. The last place I was at was at Gold Era Productions

My brother has not spoken to me since he joined the SeaOrg in 1990, his name is Jens Emil Roest; I don’t know his post, all I know is that he handles cars. I miss him very much and if anyone knows about him please let me know how is he doing.

Funny thing is that I wouldn’t mind that he is there, as long as that is what he wants and I can have a relationship to him.

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                                   Mark Plummer

 I have an 18 year-old granddaughter I’ve never met.

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                                        Meshell Little

My now 21 year old son, Jeremy Powers, disconnected from me, his step-dad, his baby sister and grandmother – two years ago this October. 

At this time, his dad (whom had been on staff and in Scn with me back in 90’s and quietly walked away in 2004 when we divorced, without being declared) was diagnosed with grade 4 brain cancer about 17 months ago and he is now at the end of his life.

It is a tough time now as we can’t pull together.  My daughter has lost her companion, brother and we will have to go through this without him.

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                                  Lori Hodgson

I have a son and daughter that have disconnected from me and my mom.  Also my stepsister disconnected from us plus many friends. 

I hate this disconnection crap!!!  I miss my kids so much…it is very painful to have our loved ones taken away from us because of an inhumane, evil, cult disconnection policy!!!!! 

My heart goes out to all of you!!

 I wanted to share a couple things regarding this disconnection and how hard the rejection has been when I have attempted to see my kids.

Last Christmas I drove to where my kids were living with their Dad. This is when they still lived in Cal within 40 minutes away. I brought them both Xmas presents and no one was home so I left a loving note and their presents on the doorstep. As I was leaving their home, my son drove by me and went to the end of the street. I then slowly drove by him…we looked at each other then he continued to go to the other end of the street, he hesitated a couple minutes and took off in the hills. I gave him the chance to see me and stop if he wanted to. I wasn’t going to go chase him down. I also saw him on the phone while he drove by me, probably getting orders of what to do. A couple weeks later my daughter had dropped off the unopened presents at my door when I was away for the weekend.

Another time my daughter before she disconnected came to talk to me and my mom. I asked her if I could just be her mom and that we don’t have to agree on the same thing anymore, but there is so much more in life then just this Scientology disagreement. She said I couldn’t just be her mom anymore because I wouldn’t go back in and get things handled in the COS. She was very angry at my mom and I and said hurtful things to us. She was really upset at me that I went public about what John Allender did which was threatening me in my work parking lot and following me across state lines to Texas.

I have tried to continue to send them loving Cards, messages and songs. The rejection of no response just breaks my heart. Some people tell me to move on and just hope that it will all work out. I tried that too…didn’t work for me.

I’ve decided I gotta keep fighting for my kids. They are worth it no matter how they treat me back. I know they are not thinking for themselves and they are told a lot of lies!!! Now I’m going to even try harder to get through to them through all means possible. I’m not afraid to ask my family and friends to help me. I need their help too! I’m going for it!!!!

This sitting back waiting for things to get better isn’t working for me so now it’s time to go for it again and again until we reconnect.!!!!! I think we all should go for it and share our ideas so we can reconnect with our loved ones!! We gotta keep trying. I know if I was in my kids shoes, I would want someone to fight for me.

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                                  Patricia Krenik

Hi.  I’m Patricia Krenik, I’ve been in Scientology since the 1950’s.  The current disconnection policy of the COS leaves me with a daughter with the Church in Seattle and a divided family.  When we have family get-to-gethers we have to do it piecemeal. 

When my daughter’s father died I was unable to visit him before his death–I would have liked to say goodbye and I’m sure he would have liked that too. 

I have had preclears who can’t divulge their relationship with the COS to others, because if the Church found out either family members would disconnect or business relationships would fall apart.

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                                        Tory Christman

GodI hate “Disconnection”! I always hated it when I was “in” and people would be labeled “SP” and basically then you’re not allowed to speak to them. How can someone be THE top dog in LA (Ivan Obalensky–Commanding officer of AOLA) and SP the next day? Now I know.

 I was declared SP over night, without ONE piece of “Tech” applied (And to any who do not know–there are many things that are SUPPOSED to be done, before one is declared “SP”).

Over night, I lost ALL of my “friends” and my husband of 27 years who has not spoken to me in 11 years–even though part of our marriage vows (Never considering being Declared, but just in case some disaster occurred)…we would ALWAYS remain friends. Sad, and true. 😦

  Losing my husband was horrific. I speak out due to ALL the families who have lost their children to this insidious CULT of $cientology, or relationships they *could* have had, IF this evil “Disconnection” were cancelled. Peace to ALL Tory/Magoo

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                              Sharone Stainforth

I  have a Father who was disconnected from me at the age of 12 years old, because L. Ron Hubbard deemed it his right to do so, because, apparently my Father was an SP. I have two stepmothers who I am also disconnected from because of Scientology, one of my own choosing because I could take it no more.

I am disconnected from my step sister because she can not handle the truth about L. Ron Hubbard or her own Father.Consequently I have never seen or known my nieces or nephew. Because of Scientology I haven’t seen my two  step brothers since 1969, because I was loath to continue with Scientology because I had witnessed too many horrendous incidents on the ship Apollo, directly at the hand of L. Ron Hubbard. I spent years alienated from my Grand Mother because she was deemed a big SP for going to the News of the World newspaper with a story of Disconnection from her youngest daughter.

That youngest daughter whom claims to this day to have learned such a lot from Scientology, that she holds some of the standards in good stead, and has helped her through life.

The same person, whom as I as a young child was told stop biting your finger nails and I will buy you a manicure set and never did. I gave it up when I was 21, because of a bet. The same person, whom,said I think out of all of us you had the roughest deal here.

Well, there’s the statement of the year. YOU seem to be doing well now, yes great until I came face to face with an E- meter.And then of course there’s the odd strange stuff, as IF we can get any stranger.

My step sister’s  Father married to my step Mother is the accountant for Narconon and Criminon, Scientology’s front groups. I start talking about it and very suddenly he retires in the UK. Well, what a SURPRISE! That’s the short version.

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                                    Grace Aaron

Hi! After writing reports pointing out specific technical references that were violated by some Golden Age of Tech courses I was questioned and eventually declared suppressive. Our older son, Zachary, was told that he had to disconnect from me, his father and his brother who is not even a Scientologist. He did that so that he could stay in good standing. He hasn’t been in communication with any us for over 10 years!
My husband and I created a nonprofit called “The Committee on Religious Shunning”. If you go to our website you’ll see videos of me interviewing other victims of disconnection:

http://www.religiousshunning.org/Pages/Main.html

I hope that the media attention Katie Holmes created will force the Church to abandon disconnection. I urge all of you to make blog comments on articles about this in the media. Especially mainstream media that doesn’t generally cover this topic. The more interest they see, the more they’ll publish!

We miss Zack very much. If any of you has any news about …

him, we’d really appreciate it if you’d contact us. In peace,
Grace Aaron
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Jane White from South Africa

This guy – a Corporate Scientologist named Ryan Hogarth – who is now working for himself as ‘a social speaker’ –  x-Sea Org member, x-President of the Church of Scientology in South Africa – is responsible for having – disconnected my grandson at the age of 18 months – from his biological father. 
And as a bonus – Ryan also gave the biological father ‘permission’ not to pay maintenance – to see to the upkeep and education of his child, which is a criminal offence in our country.   This boy so ‘disconnected’ has grown up without knowing his own father. 
You can imagine what kinds of turmoil and real hardships this brought to the life of this child.

                     This is Ryan Hogarth

He claims to be a Communication Speaker & Social Media Catalyst, whatever that means. He, as a high exec of the Church of Scientology South Africa is responsible for breaking many families.

In his business blog he also claims to be an expert in communication and his motto is: “Please, Make the Mistake of Communicating”. He glorifies himself as the “best” and “most interesting speaker” of the year, and  ” a fast thinker that knows how to capture an audience he definitely has the gift of oratory”.

He posted in one of his articles: “Be there. Communicate! After all, this is what makes life”.  Ryan Hogarth, why don’t you practice what you preach?

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Has Lisa Marie Presley left Scientology?

 

Well, you decide.

Those are the rumours, but it is just a speculation because she has not announced publicly that she has done so.

Why are people speculating in some ex Scientology boards? Lisa Marie made a huge statement in her song lyric, where she calls herself ‘suppressive’ which in ‘Scientologise’ means a criminal evil person who does harm to others and who is against Scientology.

Well, nowdays it actually means anyone who does not agree with the corrupt regime of billionaire David Miscavige the present  spurious head of the Church.

Rumor has, that someone close to Lisa Marie, went against the abuses perpetrated by those in charge and was declared ‘supressive’ and Lisa was ordered to ‘disconnect’ from this person, even though, Tom Davis the son of Anne Archer who is a representative of the Church, vehemently denies that there is disconnection or religious shunning in Scientology.

Lisa was not very happy with the ‘order’ of disconnection and she came up with a  song called “You ain’t seen nothin yet” as a response to such insane order.

However, there is another rumour that the Flag MAA is calling Scientology companies that have anything to do with Lisa Marie, to make sure everyone knows Lisa Marie has been “declared” and that everyone was to remove her information from their contact lists.  He warned that no one should have anything to do with her.  He also stated the FBI was on its way.

Whatever that means.

Here is the video, below are the lyrics.

Lisa Marie Presley
You Ain’t Seen Nothin’ Yet lyrics

Lay down the law don’t make a sound
Just critical, just going down
I don’t belong
I’ve lost the plot
Not gonna fall
Can’t be what I’m not You can think that I’m evil and I’m all for it
You ain’t seen nothin’ yet If I don’t get with your system then I’m sure to fit
You ain’t seen nothin’ yet Lay down the truth don’t make a sound
Just a piece of fruit who’s hit the ground
I don’t respond
I’ve lost the plot
Unethical
Not what I thoughtYou can think that I’m evil and I’m all for it
You ain’t seen nothin yet I’m a bit transgressive and suppressive as well
You ain’t seen nothing yet Am I a disruption to your corruption?
You ain’t seen nothing yet
You can think that I’m evil and all for it
You ain’t seen nothing yet

If I don’t get with your system
Then I’m sure to fit

No longer elated, now you’re frustrated
You ain’t seen nothing yet!

You can think that I’m evil and I’m all for it
You ain’t seen nothing yet

If I don’t get with your system then I’m sure to fit
You ain’t seen nothing yet

You can think that I’m evil and I’m all for it
I’m a bit transgressive and suppressive as well
You ain’t seen nothing yet.

I have been told that her myspace blog defending Scn is gone.

You can always write to me:
dianaclass8@yahoo.com

Scientology Disconnection is Destroying Lives

Disconnection, shunning, or whatever you want to call it, is a very destructive thing. It has been practiced in many religions and cultures all over the world as a method of  exerting control and unfortunately Scientology is no different. 

In this article there are references on Scientology Disconnection and how to handle.
What do you do when the Ethics Officer or the MAA ‘orders’ you to disconnect?

Vickki Ford and David Cook talk about the pain of disconnection.

 

Despite how much Tom Davis, (son of actress Ann Archer) vehemently denies the church currently practicing disconnection, many families are still being torn apart by a simple order given by a stranger called MAA or Ethics Officer. 

 

Disconnection is what I call FAMILICIDE, because in fact it is killing the family unit. In some religions they call it ‘shunning’ or “defellowshipping”.

 In Scientology it is called ‘disconnection’. The results of this very destructive action are:

Spouses and loved ones being broken apart

Children and parents being separated

Business relationships being disrupted, including firing good people and bankruptcy.

“Friends” dropping friends at the orders of a staff member  called MAA, Ethics Officer or C/S.

Disconnection is equal to child abuse, to betrayal, to devastation.

If a Scientology member refuses to disconnect in this instance, he or she risks being kicked out of the Church of Scientology themselves. 

HCOPL Cancellation of Disconnection Policy  15 November 1968

“Since we can now handle all types of cases

disconnection as a condition is cancelled”

Disconnection has been Cancelled!

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This was was not included in the altered new Miscavige versions of the Green Volumes! Get the original volumes from when Ron was alive!

I do agree with disconnection in some instances, even the law does, and so a person can get what is called a restraining order.

Various state laws put into place a statutory process by which an applicant can apply for, and a judge can issue a statutory restraining order.

This process provides important protection to those who fear physical harm from a potential aggressor.

There has to be justifiable reasons to apply for an order, include such as being the victim of an act that caused or created fear of serious bodily harm, assault, stalking, harassment and criminal trespass.

The judge will be the final determiner of the validity of the accusation and the necessity for the issuance of the order.

There are justifiable instances in Scientology for disconnection to occur as well.

However, they are not taking into account that there is a  policy letter for situations with family that  specifically says:

“HCOPL PTS Type A Handling of 20 October 1981”

“DO NOT CREATE ANTAGONISM!”   

In that policy Hubbard NEVER, EVER, mentions the word disconnection

The handling according to that policy is:

 

 “Get in comm with the family member until the situation is resolved”


 

HCOB  of 8 March 1983, Handling PTS Situations

 It says perfectly clear: 

“You coach him into two way communication that is well above 2.0 on the Tone Scale, that mostly consists of acks and mild interest in what is going on…

in other words, you handle this in real life..”

HCOB 10 September 1983, PTSness and Disconnection

 In the section ‘Lost Tech’ Ron says: 

Earlier disconnection as a condition was cancelled.

It had been abused by a few individuals who failed to handle situations

which could had been handled and who lazily or criminally disconnected,

thereby creating situations even worse than the original, because it was the wrong action.”

 

He also says:

“When an Ethics Officer finds that a Scientologist is PTS to a family member,

he does not recommend that the person disconnect from the antagonistic source.”

  “The E/O’s advise to the Scientologist is to handle”

ON “The Way to Happiness” in precept  5 Ron Says:

“Honor and Respect your parents

In spite of all, one must remember that they are the only parents one has.

And as such, no matter what, one should honor them and help them.

The way to happiness includes being on good terms with one’s parents  or those who brought one up.”

http://www.thewaytohappiness.org/thewaytohappiness/precepts/honor-and-help-your-parents.html

Here is a tape by L. Ron Hubbard where he cancels disconnection you can hear it from Ron himself:

l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fia700402.us.archive.org%2F34%2Fitems%2FLRonHubbardAudioLecture%2F1968.mp3&h=cAQG8GEPt

 “Disconnection is canceled as a relief for those suffering family oppression and is not longer required SP orders and the person has to handle”

I sincerely hope that these references help those who have suffered from disconnection.

I will make another posting on this topic, as it is very important that we fight until disconnection is eradicated. Do not follow insane orders that are gross out tech.

Make sure that everyone in your family is aware of these references and make sure that your ‘Ethics Officer’ or ‘MAA’ is word cleared on these policies.

If you have any questions you can contact me at:
dianaclass8@yahoo.com

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